The following are some notes based on the extended interviews with various people relating to Pauline Hanson and John Howard's approach to dealing with her. Excerpts from these extended interviews appeared in the actual episode that went to air. The extended interviews can be viewed on the
program website.
Head of DFAT on Hanson
[01] Both Mr Howard and his senior staffer Grahame Morris were shown “the thrust of the advice that was coming into the Foreign Ministry”. This advice included cables about the damage Pauline Hanson was doing to Australia’s reputation in Asia. What surprised and perturbed editorial writers and influential commentators across Asia was that Howard was not immediately condemning Hanson’s remarks on Asian immigration.
[02] Howard waited for 7 months before condemning and refuting Hanson’s views on a range of issues including immigration and foreign investment. This condemnation and rebuttal took place during a speech to the Asia Society in 1997. Both Trade Minister Tim Fischer (who had built up substantial contacts in Asia) and Alexander Downer were becoming increasingly disturbed at Howard’s refusal to condemn Hanson. They saw it as a mistake that Howard waited 7 months before dealing with the matter decisively.
[03] Hanson’s remarks and Howard’s refusal to condemn them were “causing Australia real harm in Asia”. There was a steady flow of cables and reports coming in from Australian embassies and high commissions about the Howard government’s refusal to distance itself from (if not condemn) Hanson.
[04] When Howard finally made “a very vigorous and strong statement” against Hanson in Mar 1997, Morris came upto head of DFAT and asked: “Are you happy now”. DFAT responds: “It was an excellent statement but it was 7 months too late!”
[05] It was over his solid refutation of Hanson that Downer was reprimanded for the first and only time by Howard. Downer opposed to Hanson right from the state. Not prepared to compromise. Neither was Fischer.
[06] PM had his own views about how to combat Hanson, which were not shared by his Trade and Foreign Affairs Ministers as well as other senior Ministers.
Peter Costello on Hanson[07] Hanson’s constituency had a high rate of gun ownership. Hence her popularity as she was able to galvanise her core constituency with her other pet issues on immigration and indigenous issues. This gave her a head of steam and improved her popularity. This gave voice to what Costello describes as Hanson’s “anti-Canberra, anti-elite, anti-special welfare campaign”.
[08] Costello wasn’t in Parliament for Hanson’s maiden speech but he was told about it immediately. Costello says some of her comments (e.g. about fat-cat bureaucrats) were well within the bounds of mainstream politics and debate. But her attacks on Aborigines and Aboriginal welfare were way outside bounds.
[09] It’s important to remember that the Liberal Party had disendorsed Hanson for making these kinds of remarks. It was the right decision for the Party to make.
[10] Costello was surprised with just how popular Hanson was becoming. He soon concluded that it “became clear that we had to take her on.”
[11] “Footage on TV of Rastafarian demonstrators jostling this immaculately coiffered lady helped her enormously. She looked moderate compared to these people who looked like extremists.”
[12] “If not giving someone oxygen puts ‘em out, it’s right. But after a while if you don’t give them oxygen and the start flaming brightly, that’s the point at which you call for the fire extinguisher ... to meet her claims head on and disprove them.”
[13] “She had the most bizarre economic policies that would have destroyed our economy”. Costello believed Howard should have taken Hanson on earlier, especially when it came to preferences and putting Hanson last on the ballot paper.
[14] Howard was ambivalent about Hanson. Howard wanted to open the door to freedom of speech, but wasn’t prepared for the Hansonite variety of extremism. Howard’s rhetoric of “lifting the pall of censorship” effectively gave a green light to extremists, and was the wrong approach. This was the wrong rhetoric given in a speech in Qld at a time when Hanson was all fired up.
[15] Howard’s ambivalence toward Hanson was perhaps due to his feeling he’d been wrongly treated when he made his comments in Asian immigration in 1988. When she got onto comments on Aboriginal welfare, Aboriginal special programs and race, she wasn’t exercising freedom of speech but rather being divisive “likely to inspire division in the community.”
[16] Costello announced on the Sunday before the budget that he would be putting Hanson last in his own seat of Higgins. Howard telephoned him, was very upset. Accused Costello of trying to pre-empt the decision on preferencing One Nation. Howard wanted to keep the option open, but Costello thought any such preferencing would be morally and politically wrong.
Alexander Downer on Hanson[17] Hanson was beaten up by media, ALP and political left as a means of punishing John Howard which was disgraceful given that the Libs had made the decision to dis-endorse her.
[18] As foreign minister, Downer thought Howard’s position eventually and inevitably became unsustainable.
[19] Hanson painted as some kind of SS guard when all she really was was “a simple woman articulating a prejudiced point of view”. It’s the kind of view you hear in all different parts of Australia, If you’ve never heard that view, you must be a hermit.
Words © 2008 Irfan Yusuf